Loutre to Agia Roumeli Share and discuss the many routes and paths in the mountains, along the coast, and on the plains of Sfakia. Post your walk description, add photos, and discuss safety. Use information at your own risk.

Mihalis
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Re: Loutre to Agia Roumeli

by Mihalis » 05 Feb 2018, 20:27

I did Aradena gorge down and back in one morning, jogged through Imbros gorge in 2 hours, and walked Samaria from Agia Roumeli. I'm not so concerned with the physical part (I played a pro sport not long ago), as I am with getting lost - also I have a slight fear of heights haha. In Aradena I had difficulty seeing the markers, luckily there were a few people I came across in the gorge to follow.

mike
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Re: Loutre to Agia Roumeli

by mike » 06 Feb 2018, 12:38

OK. Thanks for the extra info. I agree, overall fitness is not the issue. Anyway, as with the stock market, past performance is no guarantee for what happens in the future. The bigger issue also for me was amount of experience with hiking in and around the White Mountains. A person can only hike the region. That's the only way to learn how to read the terrain.

If you lost your way inside the Aradena gorge, and you also have some issues with vertigo, then the Ag Ioannis to Roumeli route may not be for you, especially if your experience has been limited to some gorge walks. This is not something I can decide for you, of course. But it might be better to (i) try something easier and more popular first to evaluate both yourself and what you have to deal with and (ii) always have backup plan to abort hike if it seems to be too much.

Photos might be of some help. Here is a Google overview of the Ag Ioannis - Roumeli route:

SelloudaRoumeliOverview.JPG


The trail from Ag Ioannis goes to the cliff at a place called Sellouda. I have marked the location of the Ag Pavlos chapel, and you see Ag Roumeli in the distance. Here is a view towards Roumeli from Sellouda:
Sellouda_WestView.jpg


Here is a view looking down at the start of the Kalderimi. It gives you an idea if it will cause vertigo issues:
selloudapath.jpg


Here is another view of the terrain, a photo taken more or less at the point marked with an 'X' on the map:
SeloudaRoumeli-trail.JPG


I don't recall there being paint markers on this section. You have to be able to see the correct trail, know where you are more or less going, and so on.

To be honest, if you had to ask if there was a trail between Marmara and Roumeli, then you probably don't yet know enough about the region to be able to take on too much. Certainly investing in a map will help you a lot. Anavasi publishes the best hiking maps for the Sfakia area.

The Marmara-Roumeli route is almost guaranteed to have quite a few other people on it, just in case you get disoriented. However, they usually start early from both ends (Roumeli and Loutro) between 7-8am. You may want to take that into account when you make your own plans (time of day when on the path).

I don't think that mild vertigo sufferers will have much issue with the Marmara-Roumeli coast route. I can post a few more photos to give you an idea what to expect, if you're interested/curious.

vvaz
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Re: Loutre to Agia Roumeli

by vvaz » 06 Feb 2018, 17:41

Here is information board from Agios Ioannis:

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Descent time is a bit optimistic. I would count 2h for Agios Pavlos and 1h further to Agia Roumeli. Plus 1h stop in Ag. P. taverna. Plus 1h for swimming if season allows.

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Path is well marked. I didn't have problems finding it while walking with 10m visibility in fog :)

D*mn, I was promised beautiful views, but entered clouds 100m below Agios Ioannis and exited 100m above sea.

Mihalis
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Re: Loutre to Agia Roumeli

by Mihalis » 06 Feb 2018, 18:38

The pictures are too beautiful to not try, I will either start early morning or go with someone who has gone before hopefully. Everyone on this website is so helpful, thank you so much for the route map (saving it now) and all the other information.

mike
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Re: Loutre to Agia Roumeli

by mike » 07 Feb 2018, 09:19

vvaz wrote:D*mn, I was promised beautiful views, but entered clouds 100m below Agios Ioannis and exited 100m above sea.


A strong wind from the west creates an impressive spectacle, if viewed from the outside. The wind rises up the cliff face; you can see the cloud cap forming at the bottom, then dissolving once the wind gets to the top.
Roumeli_SelloudaClouds.jpg


Here is the same phenomenon when viewed at the top, in this photo from Ag Ekaterini:
Ekaterini_SelloudaClouds.jpg


It usually starts quite small at the start of the day. By late afternoon all of the Anopoli plateau can be under cloud.

Here is another example, on a generally overcast day, with (in this case) a more gentle wind:
Roumeli_SelloudaClouds-02.jpg


I wonder if this at least partly explains why this face of the cliffs is so forested, while just to the east the landscape is barren, a version of a so-called cloud-forest, in other words, or the rainfall differences between windward and leeward side of islands.
The fog condensation gives the plants just that much more water in the dry climate:
Roumeli-fog.jpg

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